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A Moneychanger Interview:
DR. JONATHAN WRIGHT
On Macular Degeneration
I first heard
about Dr. Jonathan Wright a number of years ago when the Federal
Drug Administration raided his clinic with a SWAT team, held him and
his employees hostage, and stole injectable vitamin B12, B-complex,
herbals, glandulars, other natural remedies, computers and patient
records.
That was the biggest
mistake they made in the long course of their vendetta against Dr.
Wright and nutritional medicine. A local radio talk show host
picked up the news and asked Jonathan to appear on his drive-time
show. Pretty soon the whole west coast caught fire with support for
Jonathan Wright and Tahoma Clinic, and eventually people brought
enough heat on congress to force the FDA to back off. (Usually the
story doesn’t end so gloriously. More often the persecuting
bureaucrats slowly destroy their victim over years, alienate the
victim’s family, friends and public support with a stream of vicious
propaganda, then indict him for trumped-up crimes, and at last bury
him in jail.).
In light of that
experience and the seriousness of his profession, you might expect
Jonathan Wright to be a bit restrained, even stuffy. In fact, he’s a
bit of a jokester with a great sense of humour, so interviewing him
is a grand treat.
A son of the South,
Jonathan was born in Birmingham, Alabama in 1945, but was then taken
unwittingly northward to Ohio, whence he left for Harvard University
in 1961. Escaping from that bastion of liberalism with his A.B.
degree in 1965, he attended and graduated in 1969 with an M.D. from
the University of Michigan Medical School. After a residency program
in Family Practice, Dr. Wright slowly became aware of what he terms
“real medicine” (also called “natural medicine”) to prevent and
treat illness, in contrast to the use of patent medication, much
un-necessary surgery, and dangerous radiation routinely taught in
medical schools. In 1973, he founded Tahoma Clinic in Kent,
Washington.
Dr. Jonathan Wright
was the first to research and establish an extensive library of
medical journal articles concerning diet, vitamins, minerals,
botanicals, and other natural remedies. Joined in this effort by
Alan R. Gaby, this collection now totals over 35,000 articles. Based
on this data and extensive clinical experience, Drs. Wright and Gaby
have taught four-day courses in nutritional and natural medicine for
physicians approximately yearly since 1982. This course is
considered the Number One resource for physicians who want to apply
nutrition and nutritional therapies in their practices.
Dr. Wright wrote a
monthly column for Prevention Magazine from 1976-1986, and
Let’s Live Magazine from 1986-1996). He now writes a monthly
newsletter, Nutrition & Healing, $49/year from Agora
Publishing, 702 Cathedral Street, Baltimore, Maryland 21201 or call
(800) 851-7100,
www.wrightnewsletter.com.
For practical, clear information useful to your own health, you
can’t beat it.
In our interview Dr.
Wright mentions two books, Maximize Your Vitality and Potency –
For Men Over 40 (1999) (publisher’s title -- topic is mostly
testosterone replacement for men who need it) by Jonathan Wright and
Lane Leonard ($14.95) and Natural Hormone Replacement for Women
Over 45 by Jonathan Wright and John Morgenthaler (1997)
($9.95). These are published by Smart Publications at fax (only)
(707) 763-3944, or you should find them at health food stores or
online bookstores. He also wrote Book of Nutritional Therapy
(1979) and Guide to Healing with Nutrition (1984). In total,
his books have sold over 750,000 copies. If you can’t find the books
or the nutritional supplements mentioned below, you can order them
from the Tahoma Clinic Dispensary, 801 SW 16th Street, Suite 121,
Renton, Washington 98055 or call (425) 264-0051 or fax (425)
264-0058. Dr. Wright and Tahoma Clinic are located at the same
address but with different phone numbers, (425) 264-0059 and fax
(425) 264-0071. The clinic’s website address is
www.tahoma-clinic.com.
Dr. Wright kindly
made time for this interview on April 20, 2000.
MONEYCHANGER
I wanted to do this interview for two
reasons. First, macular degeneration is a terrible illness that can
cause blindness. Second, although many physicians say that it is
incurable, you treat it successfully with nutritional supplements.
[Moneychanger questions below will appear in italic type, Dr.
Wright’s answers in plain text.]
Dr. WRIGHT
Ophthalmology journals tell us that nine
percent of the population over 70 will get this problem.
How does the disease
progress?
It starts with bit of
waviness in the vision. In one of the simplest and most commonly
used tests for macular degeneration the doctor holds up a grid
pattern. If all the horizontal and vertical lines look straight,
then you probably don’t have the problem.
However, in the early
stages of macular degeneration some of those lines start looking
bendy. Instead of straight horizontal and vertical lines on the
page, they look curved. It’s not the same for every person, but they
are not seeing straight lines anymore.
Imagine what that does
to anything in a grid pattern. If we are no longer able to perceive
that on our retinas, we are no longer able to perceive everything in
its proper position.
That’s the way it
starts. After a while, though, we simply lose the vision
altogether. As it progresses it destroys the central part of the
retina, the macula. That’s why it’s called “macular”
degeneration.
What causes macular
degeneration?
Officially
the cause isn’t known. Ophthalmology journals tell you that it is a
disease of aging but we really don’t know what causes it.
Okay, that’s the party
line. Now my idea [laughing] is that a lack of certain
key nutrients causes macular degeneration. We can call them
“antioxidants.” That is currently a popular buzzword because
academics refuse to talk about “vitamins” and “minerals”. After all,
they’re only for health food nuts, so they have to call them
“antioxidants”.
The problem is not
merely a long term lack of those nutrients in the diet. The
other really key factor is that the overwhelming majority of
people with macular degeneration also have difficulty digesting and
assimilating nutrients in the first place. Over and over
again we are finding that we not only need to correct nutritional
deficiencies, but we also have to compensate for the faulty
digestion that has contributed to the nutritional deficiency.
I can’t say that it is
entirely poor diet or entirely poor digestion. In over 90% of
macular degeneration cases, those two both appear.
Exactly how does the
digestion fails? Is that a function of age, too?
Yes, partly. When
someone comes in with macular degeneration, we run two key tests.
First we check the stomach for its ability to produce
hydrochloric acid (HCl).
We all know that
stomachs are supposed to produce HCl, and that the HCl triggers what
are called proteolytic enzymes (enzymes that digest protein).
Without enough acid in our tummies, those acid sensitive enzymes
don’t work and the first phase of protein digestion doesn’t work
very well.
Not only protein
digestion is disturbed, but also mineral release from the foods
they’re embedded in. We’ve all heard, for example, that there’s iron
in red meat. However, if a person doesn’t have much acid in their
tummy they not only fail to digest the meat protein, they also don’t
get much iron out of it -- as well as a bunch of other mineral
nutrients.
Over and over we find
that folks with macular degeneration have stomachs that don’t work
real well. They are making a little teeny-tiny bit of stomach acid,
or sometimes none at all. That’s part of why the nutrients that the
eyes needed to stay healthy weren’t getting there in the first
place.
The second test we
perform on every macular degeneration patient is one of those icky
medical tests, a stool specimen. That tells us how well the pancreas
is performing its job: the second phase of protein digestion plus
most of digesting fats, starches, and vegetables. Out of 100 people
with macular degeneration, 98 will show abnormal on one test or the
other, or both. It is extremely rare to see a person with macular
degeneration who is normal on both of those tests.
Does the stool
specimen show whether the pancreas is producing enzymes in the
proper quantities?
Yes, indirectly, but we
want to know whether the various things that are supposed to be
digested -- vegetable fiber, fat, etc. -- are digested
adequately or not. If it’s not, we infer that the pancreas is not
doing its job. We verify that by having people take extra quantities
of pancreatic enzymes and repeating the stool test to see if
everything is digested now. Nearly 100% of the time, it is. It is an
inference, not a direct test, but it is an extremely good inference.
If proteolytic
enzymes require an acid environment then what happens to people who
take massive doses of Maalox as a lot of older people do?
They certainly do,
Franklin. Dr. Lane Leonard (a Ph.D. who co-authored my last book on
male hormone replacement) and I are writing a book which is
tentatively titled Slow Death By Antacids. People who take
these things are seriously interfering with normal digestion.
When we seriously interfere with normal digestion we don’t get our
nutrients, so we’ll die a little quicker.
What can alleviate
indigestion then?
As this book will tell
us, the large majority of indigestions (and I want to underline that
I did not say all but a large majority of
indigestions) is caused by a lack of acid in the tummy, not
too much.
When folks past 40 come
into the clinic and tell me they have heartburn and indigestion, I
tell them that I want to do these stomach tests. Upwards of 95% of
those people come back with test results showing that they don’t
have enough acid in there.
So we tell them to take
these replacement HCl acid with pepsin capsules with every
meal. Of course, I get a lot of stares. They say, “Are you some kind
of crazy, doctor? Here I’ve got this acid coming up in my stomach ,
and you want me to take HCl? I’ll burn myself to death!”
We tell them, “No, no,
no, please look at your test. Even if you are a hard-to-please
Boeing engineer, this is hard data. Now look at a normal
test, and look at the difference. Please, even if you have to
keep a glass of bicarbonate of soda handy in case I made a mistake,
you do that, but please take these HCl capsules with meals.”
People come back and say
“I never would have believed that taking HCl with pepsin with every
meal would take care of my acid indigestion. How’d that happen?!” I
have to tell them that I don’t know the molecular mechanism,
I just know that it works, especially when we have an
abnormal test in front of us.
Is it true that
cayenne pepper is also good for indigestion?
It stimulates the
stomach to secrete HCl, so where acid production is declining, we
can stimulate it back up with cayenne. On the other hand, if we are
seriously low on HCl, that is never a replacement for adequate HCl.
Let’s put a little
common sense in here. I know we’re talking about macular
degeneration, but this is a part of the whole picture. As we get
older, we can’t run as fast as we used to, our muscles can’t lift as
much as they once could, and our eyes don’t see as clearly. Why
would we expect that the stomach is the only organ in our entire
body exempted from this decline? Why should the stomach work
more and more aggressively as we get older when everything else
slows down? That just doesn’t make any sense. If we just apply a
little logic and common sense, we recognise that the stomach is
going to slow down, too, just like the rest of us.
So what about all this
stuff sold over the counter to block or counteract stomach acid
production -- Tums®, Rolaids®, Zantac®, Tagamet®, and Pepcid®? We
are all being sold an enormous bill of goods. About ninety
percent of the time people who take that stuff simply do not need
it. In fact, it’s counter-productive.
I used to have a
chiropractor who told me that the best thing for indigestion was a
tablespoon of vinegar. What do you think about that?
That’s a pale shadow of
what’s really needed. Vinegar is not nearly as strong as normal
stomach acid, but at the very least it is a step in the correct
direction. It reminds me of a book popular in the 1940s and 1950s
called Vermont Folk Medicine by Dr. Jarvis. His cure for
everything was taking apple cider vinegar with a little honey. What
he was doing was helping people’s digestions and in fact that does
help cure other problems, because it brings nutrients in more
efficiently.
Obviously you don’t
recommend that people diagnose and treat themselves, but if someone
wanted to supplement HCl, what should they buy?
Betaine hydrochloride
with pepsin, and it usually comes in
capsules labelled “ten grains.” That is the same as 650 milligrams,
and usually the label carries both measurements. The full adult
replacement dose runs from five to seven capsules per meal, which is
a bunch. Some of us need that full replacement, and some of us
don’t.
Back in the mid-'80’s I
learned the hard way how important digestion and assimilation are
for folks with macular degeneration. At that time I had been asking
people to take the key nutrients and swallow them. It worked, but
only 30-40% of the time, and it certainly didn’t work as well as I
would have liked. One day in 1986 a woman came in on a sort of
hurry-up, emergency basis. She had visited her ophthalmologist twice
in the last six weeks, and her macular degeneration was progressing
very rapidly. What could we do about it?
This was just before
Reagan changed the tax laws, you know the TEFRA thing back in 1986?
I remember it quite
well.
It’s funny how politics
gets into health care all the time. Before they changed the tax laws
you could deduct for every single vitamin and mineral you took. This
lady’s husband was a CPA, so she came in with these great spread
sheets of all the vitamins and minerals she had been taking for the
last five years, because they were deducting every single thing! [laughing]
I looked at that spread sheet, and sure enough, she had been taking
all of the key nutrients needed to improve macular degeneration, and
yet she had rapidly deteriorating macular degeneration.
In nutritional medicine
if something frequently works on some people when you swallow it,
but it isn’t working on these other people when they swallow it, as
a last ditch measure you throw the whole thing in an IV bottle and
see if it works that way.
That’s what we did. We
put it all into an IV bottle, hung it up, and started the IV. About
half way into the IV a little yell comes out of the IV room.
The nurse runs in there, “Mrs. So-and-so, what do you want?”
She yells, “Look! I can
read that poster on the wall! I couldn’t read it when I came in!”
(It’s always nice when one of your first results is a dramatic one…
that really keeps you going.)
Aww, come on! [laughing]
Now this lady is still
with us, and she’ll tell you about it any time. We rarely get
results that fast. Usually, even with IVs it takes a minimum of two
or three weeks to start showing improvement. Maybe her case was
declining so rapidly that just a little bit of nutrient made a big
difference. Of course, we got all excited and continued her IVs
until her macular degeneration simply went away.
Since she had been
swallowing all these key nutrients for five years and they hadn’t
worked but they did work in an IV, naturally we wanted to know
why. So we began checking out her stomach acid and her
pancreas; she had both problems. From then on everybody who
came in the front door with macular degeneration (or the back door,
for that matter) got his stomach and pancreas checked. We had not
been doing that routinely before because, after all, this is an
eye problem, isn’t it? We found out that no, no, no, it
isn’t just an eye problem, it’s a nutritional problem.
It happens to surface in the eye, but it’s an overall body
nutritional problem that involves poor digestion.
What are these key
nutrients?
I knew you’d get
to that. [laughing] Key nutrients are selenium,
zinc, taurine, and vitamin E. I’ve learned about
all that just from reading the medical literature and working with
folks. Oddly enough, I learned about selenium from the Yakima
Valley Daily Herald.
Not normally
accounted a well known source of cutting edge medical technology.
Not normally, but in the
late ‘70s somebody sent me Dr. Joseph Bittner’s article from the
Yakima Valley Daily Herald about how he improved his own
macular degeneration. He knew that eastern Washington and Oregon are
very selenium-poor regions, because he kept cows and had to
feed them selenium to prevent white muscle disease. He figured that
if it was a very selenium-poor region and he was eating groceries
mostly grown there, that maybe he needed selenium, too. So when he
got macular degeneration he started scarfing selenium and his
macular degeneration got better.
When I read that, I
thought, Okay, the next person who comes in with macular
degeneration, we’re going to try some selenium. We did and it helped
a little. It didn’t get rid of it, but it helped a little, so
I started hitting the books on what other nutrients are important to
retinal function. This was in the ‘70s, remember, when we didn’t
have all the information we have now. Still, we did know that the
retina has the second largest concentration of zinc in the whole the
body. (The hearing apparatus has the most.) So I added zinc to this
program.
Even in the 1970s there
was a lot of information about the amino acid taurine and
retinal function in cats. For cats taurine is an essential amino
acid while for humans it is not. People can make their own taurine,
but it’s still a so-called “conditionally essential” amino acid --
some of us make enough and some of us don’t. Cats don’t make any at
all, so that’s why they were researching cats so heavily.
So – simple minded
thinking again, but fortunately we can get by with a lot of simple
minded thinking, can’t we! [laughing]
It’s the best kind,
really.
So it occurred to me
that if taurine was so important that a cat didn’t get any in its
diet went blind, and that people sometimes made enough taurine and
sometimes not, I ought to add some taurine to the program.
Where did the vitamin E
come from? Even in the ‘70s everyone knew it was the major
antioxidant that you use up when hit with heat or light, and of
course the macula is being hit with light all the time. So I threw
Vitamin E in.
Even when people only
swallowed those four things we were getting about 30-40%
results. When we switched to the IV our track record jumped up. (The
minerals have to go in by IV. People can pretty well absorb taurine
or vitamin E, even if their digestion isn’t too good, but the
minerals just don’t get in well at all.) Using IVs, in about 70% of
macular degeneration cases we can either stop it cold so it doesn’t
worsen, or we can reverse it -- and I do mean get it reversed.
We’re talking about
turning the disease backwards.
Yes, that’s exactly what
we’re talking about. Out of that 70%, more than half is reversed,
and a little less than half is just stopped cold but doesn’t get
better. I know you’ve interviewed Dr. Tom Dorman.
About three years ago
on this same topic.
Tom joined our clinic
about 1996, but has since opened his own practice. He had his own
newsletter [Fact, Fiction & Fraud in Modern Medicine,
monthly, $69.95/year from 216 Railroad Avenue North, Kent,
Washington 98032; fax (253) 854-7050;
http://www.dormanpub.com. He wrote there that when he joined
Tahoma Clinic he heard about this nutritional treatment for macular
degeneration and simply couldn’t believe that a bunch of nutrients
would get rid of macular degeneration. But he tried it, and much to
his surprise, it worked! He’s been using it ever since, and finds
that it either arrests or reverses.
Let me give you an
example of “reversed.” It is one of the better examples I can think
of because I didn’t do it myself and it happened to be my dad. In
the mid-‘80s my father (who isn’t with us anymore) was in his 80s
and he developed macular degeneration. He was living in southern
Ohio. He was a stubborn fellow and called me up and asked what I
knew about treating macular degeneration. I told him about the IVs
and invited him out to Washington. He said he wasn’t going out to
Washington state, he’d find somebody local.
He was not only stubborn
but persistent, too, so he visited a bunch of ophthalmologists.
Finally in a small town called Xenia he found one and he just
browbeat him into giving him the treatment. This ophthalmologist
said, “Well, I don’t believe that’s going to work, but I haven’t got
anything else for you anyway, so I’ll try it.” That’s a nice
open-minded attitude. A lot of docs will say, “I don’t have anything
for you, and by the way I don’t believe that nutrition is going to
work, so we’re not going to use that, either.”
This doctor was honest
enough to admit he didn’t have anything better, so he’d be happy to
try this treatment. He called me up and got the recipe for the IV.
He gave the IVs, and he also checked my dad’s vision. When he first
went in, corrected with glasses he had 20/300 in one eye and 20/400
in the other.
He got all his IVs, and
by the end of his treatment series he was down to 20/30 and 20/50
corrected!
I like to quote that
story not just because it’s my father, but also because the
treatment was done in Southern Ohio by an ophthalmologist who I
don’t know and who had never heard of this treatment, and yet he
reported similar results. He started treating all his patients that
way, and last I heard he was hassling with Medicare about why they
wouldn’t cover it.
What quantities of
these nutrients do you take?
If the person can be
fairly assured that his digestion is working well so that the stuff
will get in to his system, then one takes around 300 micrograms of
selenium (that’s extremely low, Franklin – the toxic limit
for selenium starts at 1,500 micrograms and upwards, and some people
can tolerate a lot more than that). Some people go as high as 500,
and that’s fine with me, too.
Second thing is zinc.
That needs to come in as zinc picolinate or zinc citrate,
60 to 90 milligrams to start. (All these things can be tapered down,
by the way, as you get results.) If we take extra zinc and happen to
be marginal on copper, then it can produce a copper deficiency. In
that case, just take a little extra copper.
We give one gram a day
of taurine, and taurine is extremely safe, no side effects to
watch out for there. For vitamin E we use 400 to 800 units a
day of the mixed tocopherols.
That’s the core of the
program that we’ve been running since the mid-‘80s, but with the
explosion of interest in natural medicine in the last decade, we’ve
added many other things. For example, by now everybody’s heard of
the herb bilberry.
That stuff’s great
for night vision!
We make sure that’s in
there. Then there’s another amino acid, N-acetyl-cysteine [en
uh SEE till SIS tene], that’s very important, as is gingko.
The list grows long. Those four things I gave you to start with form
the core group without which we don’t get results, but these other
things improve results.
A few years back Dr.
Alan Gaby and I put all of this into an oral formulation called
Ocudyne, and then we upgraded that to Ocudyne II.
Besides the four core group ingredients, it has N-acetyl-cysteine,
bilberry, and a total of 20 other ingredients which have been shown
to be important for eyes. (Ocudyne is designed as a multiple vitamin
fortified with everything extra that your eyes need. We did that so
people wouldn’t have to be taking all these extra things plus
a multiple vitamin) It’s parked in all the natural food stores. In
fact it’s the major seller in the area of eye care.
A lot of folks have told
us that when they had just barely developed macular degeneration,
they bought some Ocudyne and scarfed the label amount, eight
capsules a day, which is not an overdose. They report that
they have reversed their macular degeneration right there. Why are
they coming and telling us? Because they come to the clinic about
something else. Those people fortunately have a strong enough
digestion that between their diet and the Ocudyne capsules, enough
got through to do the job. The ones we usually see for macular
degeneration are people who (1) don’t even know about the Ocudyne or
(2) have tried Ocudyne and it hasn’t helped them much but they’ve
heard that about the IVs, so they come in for that.
Macular degeneration,
then, is a disease of old age that shouldn’t affect nearly as many
people as it does?
Instead of affecting
nine percent of the people over 70, as it does now, it really ought
to affect one or two percent of the over ninety population,
if we got everything right with the digestion.
Is there anything
else my readers should know about macular degeneration? And for
readers who won’t take Ocudyne but plan to mix up their own vitamin
and mineral cocktail, what is the difference between taking
tablets and capsules?
I’m glad you mentioned
that, since the large majority of people with macular degeneration
have weak digestion. Frequently people with weak digestion find the
tablets in the toilet.
I understand – they
pass through the body unharmed.
So taking capsules is
far and away preferable for people with weak digestion. Did I ever
tell you about the patient I had who cleaned septic tanks for a
living? It’s a true story.
No.
He told me that every
once in a while he’d be out there pumping out the septic tank and
he’d hear all this rattle! rattle! rattle! in the pipe. When
he was new at the job he’d go and look, but after a couple of times
he got used to it and could just identify the sound. Turns out he
was pumping two, three, four, five inches of pills from the
bottom of septic tanks.
You’re kidding.
I am not kidding.
They won’t even
dissolve in septic tanks?
That’s what the man was
telling me. When he’d hear that little rattle, if he knew the people
and wanted to be nice to them, he’d open up the pipe, fish out a few
pills, rinse them off, and knock on the front door and say, “By the
way, I thought you’d like to know that your medications or vitamins
aren’t really helping you very much.”
So thanks for mentioning
tablets versus capsules. You absolutely ought to take capsules,
because they digest and assimilate better.
There’s one other thing.
Ophthalmologists identify two types of macular degeneration. There’s
one they call “dry” and another called “wet.” That’s kind of weird
because the back of the eye is wet at all times so they’re both
really wet technically. The dry one is where the macula just simply
deteriorates and that’s that. In the so-called wet one, an abnormal
formation of blood vessels creeps out over the macula so that
instead of just deteriorating, all these blood vessels get in the
way and destroy the tissue. Folks always want to know if the
treatment I’ve described works for dry macular degeneration,
wet, or both.
Although we have a
better shot at the so-called dry type, some people with wet macular
degeneration have gotten better, too. So whatever kind of macular
degeneration people have, they shouldn’t give up. They should go
after it with this treatment and see what they get.
Thanks very, very
much for your time. It’s always a pleasure to visit with you, but
especially so when our conversation can benefit so many people with
just a very small change in diet.
And the outcome can be
so devastating if you can’t get it reversed.
I never had heard of
macular degeneration until about 1996. We were having our newsletter
printed in New Albany, Mississippi. We went to Wal-Mart while we
were waiting and I was sitting near the drug store on a bench. This
woman came along and plopped this big man down beside me, not a fat
man but just a big fellow. He started talking (when you get away
from cities people are a lot friendlier) and he asked me where I was
from and I told him Memphis. He said, Oh, I go to the eye doctor up
there.
I noticed that he
obviously couldn’t see very much, and I asked him what was wrong
with his eyes. He told me he had macular degeneration.
I’ve never seen him
again, and only quite a while later did I read about your treatment
for macular degeneration in Tom Dorman’s newsletter. Here was this
man in the prime of life, retired but in great physical shape, who
had been active all his life, raised cattle and so forth, and he
couldn’t do any of that ever again. He was looking at spending the
rest of his days basically inactive because of macular degeneration.
Every time I hear those words, his
plight wrings my heart again, so I rejoice over what y’all are doing
in Seattle.
I’m sure glad you’re
getting the word out.
[END]
I first published
this interview in May, 2000. Why publish it again now? Because many
of you have never seen it, and because I’m so angry and frustrated.
Establishment medicine continues to refuse to acknowledge this
treatment for macular degeneration. Lately I read that they’re
developing mechanical eye-implants for macular degeneration. When I
saw that, I knew I had to re-publish this article.
By the way, Susan and
I both take Ocudyne II every day, twice a day, from three to five
capsules per dose. You can order 200 Ocudyne II capsules for $36.25
from Tahoma Clinic Dispensary, 801 SW 16th St., Suite 121, Renton,
Washington 98055, phone (425) 264-0051 and fax (425) 264-0058. I
have no financial interest whatever in this recommendation. – F.
Sanders
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